Spiritual Chat 36 - Summary of Chat About Spiritual Chat 36 Title: "Becoming Truly Successful In Our Life" Date of Chat: January 27, 2004 Date Posted: March 3, 2004 Chat Between: Muhammad and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 36 Go To: Summary of Chat - an expanded summary of each outline topic Outline of Summary - outline, plus short summary of each outline topic Text of Summary - expanded summary of each outline topic Go To: Original Version of Chat - original text of chat, with no outline or summary Go To: Outline & Summary Version of Chat - outline of chat, text of chat, plus expanded summary of each outline topic Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 37 Chat 36: Expanded Version Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 35 Chat 36: Related Material Page 1 of 1 Go To Table of Content - Spiritual Chat 36 Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 36 Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. May God help us all. Here is the first in a series of beautiful spiritual chats between our brothers Muhammad, or Muhammad786, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), or MuhaiyaddeenLB, that occurred from January 27, 2003, to the present, March 3, 2004, for your reading enjoyment. Thank you. We have given this Spiritual Chat the title, "Becoming Truly Successful In Our Life", because it started a beautiful set of sharings, of coming together at the feet of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and of God within Him, that has truly moved the lives of these two brothers toward true success, by solidifying for both of them the true meaning of the Shaikh-Disciple Relationship described by His Holiness, when He told us, "If two of you come together in My Name, I will be there." We have organized this Web Page into several versions of the same Spiritual Chat, to help in our sharing of it, as well as in our study of it, our study of what has been given to us in each of these wonderful experiences, while sitting at the feet of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and of God within Him. Therefore, we have come up with an Original Version, and an Outline & Summary Version, as well as a separate Summary of the Chat, for all of the chats. This is the standard package of information that we plan to provided for each Spiritual Chat Web Page. And for some of the more involved chats we may also add an Expanded Version of the chat, as well as a List of Related Material, that provide pointers or Links to other related material, and a Table of Contents for a chat, to help provide easy access to all of the different views and pieces of a chat. For more general information about our Spiritual Chats, click on "About Spiritual Chats" which you can access from the "Home Page - Spiritual Chats", and for material specific to one Spiritual Chat, if some is available, click on the "About" for that Spiritual Chat, like on "About Spiritual Chat 36" for this chat, which you can access either here or at the top of the page. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). Summary of Chat - an expanded summary of each outline topic Outline of Summary: - outline, plus short summary of each outline topic 1. Introduction of Chat - thank you Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen for 'Instant Messaging" me, for "IM'ing" me. Your welcome, my dearest loving brother Muhammad 2. Please Come Visit Your Brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen - because there are so many wonderful wisdom points that Bawa has opened in my heart since our last sharing 3. My Life Is Now A Matter of Survival, Not of Teaching, My Brother - which we could not have handled before 4. Yes, But True Survival Is The Real Teaching, My Dear Brother - for Bawa teaches us that the main intention we should always have, when we are confronted by anything the world contains, is to escape 5. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother - it is only the Shaikh who can conduct our lives as they need to be conducted 6. We Must Realize, That The Way We Become Truly Successful In Our Life - is to settle into stillness through the realization that everything is perfect 7. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother - and the grace is in being able to step back and realize that we don't really know what should be going on at any given time because we don't have the wisdom to see what only wisdom can see. which is what is really going on 8. Yes, And He Will Most Certainly Do This Within Us - if we keep asking Him to do it, if we keep telling Him to do it, if we keep using His words to get Him to do it 9. We Must Start to Use God To Get To God - and to do this we must stop trying to use "ourselves" to get to God, we must stop trying to use "us" as "separate from" God, to get to the "Oneness" that is God. That will never work 10. To Gain Success, Stability, And Happiness In Our Worldly Life - Bawa teaches us, in the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom", on page 141, that to accomplish this in our life time we must assimilate each sweet word in this book, "Guru Mani" 11. We Must Learn To Become The "Three of Us" Within The "Three of God" - and to do this, we must first allow "God, the Shaikh, and the Disciple" within us to become One within us, within the Triple Flame of God within us 12. And Realize That To Truly Help Bawa, We Must Learn To Help His Children - we must learn to treat His Children in the same way that Bawa treated them, as our own life, as the wealth of our life Text of Summary: - expanded summary of each outline topic 1. Introduction of Chat Thank you, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen for 'Instant Messaging" me, for "IM'ing" me. Your welcome, my dearest loving brother Muhammad. 2. Please Come To Visit Your Brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen Please come to visit your brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), my dearest loving brother Muhammad, because there are so many wonderful wisdom points that Bawa has opened in my heart since our last sharing, and a great deal of additional clarity has come about the wisdom points that we have shared in the past. 3. My Life Is Now A Matter of Survival, Not of Teaching Ok, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, but my life is now just a matter of survival, not of teaching, which we could not have handled before, and only handle now through the grace and wisdom of God, through the presence of Bawa within me, and the presence of God within Him, allowing my "tolerance for much" to increase. 4. True Survival Is The Real Teaching That is true, my dearest loving brother, Mahammad, but we must also realize that true survival is the real teaching, for Bawa teaches us that the main intention we should always have, when confronted by everything the world contains, is to escape, that we must learn to escape from this world of darkness, from this body of illusion, before it is too late, that we must learn to use God to escape into God within us, into the grace, the wisdom, and the 'ilm of God within us, before we die, and in this way, not become stuck with them, with the things of the world, for eternity. That this is the true learning of our life, my dearest loving brother, how to truly survive. 5. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother Yes, you are correct, my brother. It is only the Shaikh who can conduct our lives as they need to be conducted. Our purpose is to idie and disappear within Him and His purpose is to bring us to the state where we are able to die and disappear within Him. 6. We Must Realize The Way We Become Truly Successful In Our Life That is true, Muhammad, and the way we become truly successful in our life is to settle into stillness through the realization that everything is perfect. We must realize that everything else is just karma, fate, and destiny, and will only lead us to the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), to the suffering of the grave, to Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment), and to an eternal life of "separation from" God. 7. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother Yes, you are correct, my brother. And the grace is in being able to step back and realize that we don't really know what should be going on at any given time because we don't have the wisdom to see what only wisdom can see, which is what is really going on. 8. Yes, And He Will Most Certainly Do This Within Us Yes Muhammad, and He will most certainly do this within us, if we keep asking Him to do it, if we keep telling Him to do it, if we keep using His words to get Him to do it, as He is always telling God to do it, throughout His life and teaching, and we must do this telling, this asking, this pleading, in the context of everything that He places before us, which is everything that comes before us. This is the path. 9. We Must Start to Use God To Get To God In this way, we must start to use God, and God alone, to get to God, and to do this we must stop trying to use "ourselves" to get to God, we must stop trying to use "us" as "separate from" God, to get to God, and instead, we must start to use what God has placed of Himself within us to get to God, we must start to use our Shaikh within us, which is Bawa within us, and God within Him, to get to God. 10. Gaining Success, Stability, And Happiness In Our Worldly Life For example, Bawa teaches us, in the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom", on page 141, in the "Conclusion" to that book, that we must assimilate each sweet work in this book, "Guru Mani", we must absorb each word individually, we must enshrine it in our mind and savor it, and if we do, we will gain success, stability, and happiness in our worldly life, but will also enjoy a reciprocative bliss among your fellow people. Bawa tells us that this is certain, this is the truth, and that He says this with determination. So this is what we must do, my dearest loving brother of the One Open Heart of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be please with Him), this is what we must certainly do, to be successful in our life, both here and in the hereafter. May we both, may we all, know this now, and start to act accordingly. May we all do this "Heart's Work", before it is too late. 11. Learning To Become The "Three of Us" Within The "Three of God" Within Us My dearest loving brother Muhammad, we must learning to become the "Three of Us" within the "Three of God" within us, allowing "God, the Shaikh, and the Disciple" within us to become One within us, within the Triple Flame of God within us, allowing the Triple Flame of God within us, allowing Ya Allah, Ya Rasul, Ya Muhaiyaddeen within us, to again become One with God within Us. In this way, moving forward what God has started within us, which is to reveal God to God within us, which is to answer God's question of God in Anathi within us, in the time of darkness or lack of understanding within us, which is our current state within us, to answer the question God asked of God within us, the question, "Who am I?", for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, which is the earth world or dunya within us, and for the benefit of all of the Creation of True Man within us, which is the hereafter or akhirah within us. 12. To Order To Truly Help Bawa, We Must Learn To Truly Help His Children Finally, we must begin to realize, that in order to truly help Bawa within us, we must learn to truly help his children both within us and "outside" of us. This is how Bawa has taught us to help Him, to treat His Children in the same way that Bawa treated them, as our own life, as the wealth of our life, as our eyes in awwal, the dunya, and akhirah, as the 1000 generosities of God within us, that make up our inner body, the 1000 generosities of God that can bring the 4 elements, the 4 religions within us to completion. In this way, liberating us, before our death, from the things most people will have to experience after their death, when they can do nothing about it, which includes the suffering of the grave, Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment), and an eternal life of "separation from" God, instead allowing us to come to completion before our death, finding completion within God's grace, finding wisdom within God's completion, finding truth within God's wisdom, and finding God, as the "Oneness of God and True Man", within God's truth. Amen. 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Spiritual Chat 36 - Summary of Chat About Spiritual Chat 36 Title: "Becoming Truly Successful In Our Life" Date of Chat: January 27, 2004 Date Posted: March 3, 2004 Chat Between: Muhammad and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 36 Go To: Summary of Chat - an expanded summary of each outline topic Outline of Summary - outline, plus short summary of each outline topic Text of Summary - expanded summary of each outline topic Go To: Original Version of Chat - original text of chat, with no outline or summary Go To: Outline & Summary Version of Chat - outline of chat, text of chat, plus expanded summary of each outline topic Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 37 Chat 36: Expanded Version Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 35 Chat 36: Related Material Page 1 of 1 Go To Table of Content - Spiritual Chat 36 Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 36 Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of us. May God help us all. Here is the first in a series of beautiful spiritual chats between our brothers Muhammad, or Muhammad786, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), or MuhaiyaddeenLB, that occurred from January 27, 2003, to the present, March 3, 2004, for your reading enjoyment. Thank you. We have given this Spiritual Chat the title, "Becoming Truly Successful In Our Life", because it started a beautiful set of sharings, of coming together at the feet of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and of God within Him, that has truly moved the lives of these two brothers toward true success, by solidifying for both of them the true meaning of the Shaikh-Disciple Relationship described by His Holiness, when He told us, "If two of you come together in My Name, I will be there." We have organized this Web Page into several versions of the same Spiritual Chat, to help in our sharing of it, as well as in our study of it, our study of what has been given to us in each of these wonderful experiences, while sitting at the feet of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and of God within Him. Therefore, we have come up with an Original Version, and an Outline & Summary Version, as well as a separate Summary of the Chat, for all of the chats. This is the standard package of information that we plan to provided for each Spiritual Chat Web Page. And for some of the more involved chats we may also add an Expanded Version of the chat, as well as a List of Related Material, that provide pointers or Links to other related material, and a Table of Contents for a chat, to help provide easy access to all of the different views and pieces of a chat. For more general information about our Spiritual Chats, click on "About Spiritual Chats" which you can access from the "Home Page - Spiritual Chats", and for material specific to one Spiritual Chat, if some is available, click on the "About" for that Spiritual Chat, like on "About Spiritual Chat 36" for this chat, which you can access either here or at the top of the page. My love you (anbu), my dearest loving brothers and sisters, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). Summary of Chat - an expanded summary of each outline topic Outline of Summary: - outline, plus short summary of each outline topic 1. Introduction of Chat - thank you Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen for 'Instant Messaging" me, for "IM'ing" me. Your welcome, my dearest loving brother Muhammad 2. Please Come Visit Your Brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen - because there are so many wonderful wisdom points that Bawa has opened in my heart since our last sharing 3. My Life Is Now A Matter of Survival, Not of Teaching, My Brother - which we could not have handled before 4. Yes, But True Survival Is The Real Teaching, My Dear Brother - for Bawa teaches us that the main intention we should always have, when we are confronted by anything the world contains, is to escape 5. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother - it is only the Shaikh who can conduct our lives as they need to be conducted 6. We Must Realize, That The Way We Become Truly Successful In Our Life - is to settle into stillness through the realization that everything is perfect 7. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother - and the grace is in being able to step back and realize that we don't really know what should be going on at any given time because we don't have the wisdom to see what only wisdom can see. which is what is really going on 8. Yes, And He Will Most Certainly Do This Within Us - if we keep asking Him to do it, if we keep telling Him to do it, if we keep using His words to get Him to do it 9. We Must Start to Use God To Get To God - and to do this we must stop trying to use "ourselves" to get to God, we must stop trying to use "us" as "separate from" God, to get to the "Oneness" that is God. That will never work 10. To Gain Success, Stability, And Happiness In Our Worldly Life - Bawa teaches us, in the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom", on page 141, that to accomplish this in our life time we must assimilate each sweet word in this book, "Guru Mani" 11. We Must Learn To Become The "Three of Us" Within The "Three of God" - and to do this, we must first allow "God, the Shaikh, and the Disciple" within us to become One within us, within the Triple Flame of God within us 12. And Realize That To Truly Help Bawa, We Must Learn To Help His Children - we must learn to treat His Children in the same way that Bawa treated them, as our own life, as the wealth of our life Text of Summary: - expanded summary of each outline topic 1. Introduction of Chat Thank you, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen for 'Instant Messaging" me, for "IM'ing" me. Your welcome, my dearest loving brother Muhammad. 2. Please Come To Visit Your Brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen Please come to visit your brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), my dearest loving brother Muhammad, because there are so many wonderful wisdom points that Bawa has opened in my heart since our last sharing, and a great deal of additional clarity has come about the wisdom points that we have shared in the past. 3. My Life Is Now A Matter of Survival, Not of Teaching Ok, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, but my life is now just a matter of survival, not of teaching, which we could not have handled before, and only handle now through the grace and wisdom of God, through the presence of Bawa within me, and the presence of God within Him, allowing my "tolerance for much" to increase. 4. True Survival Is The Real Teaching That is true, my dearest loving brother, Mahammad, but we must also realize that true survival is the real teaching, for Bawa teaches us that the main intention we should always have, when confronted by everything the world contains, is to escape, that we must learn to escape from this world of darkness, from this body of illusion, before it is too late, that we must learn to use God to escape into God within us, into the grace, the wisdom, and the 'ilm of God within us, before we die, and in this way, not become stuck with them, with the things of the world, for eternity. That this is the true learning of our life, my dearest loving brother, how to truly survive. 5. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother Yes, you are correct, my brother. It is only the Shaikh who can conduct our lives as they need to be conducted. Our purpose is to idie and disappear within Him and His purpose is to bring us to the state where we are able to die and disappear within Him. 6. We Must Realize The Way We Become Truly Successful In Our Life That is true, Muhammad, and the way we become truly successful in our life is to settle into stillness through the realization that everything is perfect. We must realize that everything else is just karma, fate, and destiny, and will only lead us to the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him), to the suffering of the grave, to Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment), and to an eternal life of "separation from" God. 7. Yes, You Are Correct, My Brother Yes, you are correct, my brother. And the grace is in being able to step back and realize that we don't really know what should be going on at any given time because we don't have the wisdom to see what only wisdom can see, which is what is really going on. 8. Yes, And He Will Most Certainly Do This Within Us Yes Muhammad, and He will most certainly do this within us, if we keep asking Him to do it, if we keep telling Him to do it, if we keep using His words to get Him to do it, as He is always telling God to do it, throughout His life and teaching, and we must do this telling, this asking, this pleading, in the context of everything that He places before us, which is everything that comes before us. This is the path. 9. We Must Start to Use God To Get To God In this way, we must start to use God, and God alone, to get to God, and to do this we must stop trying to use "ourselves" to get to God, we must stop trying to use "us" as "separate from" God, to get to God, and instead, we must start to use what God has placed of Himself within us to get to God, we must start to use our Shaikh within us, which is Bawa within us, and God within Him, to get to God. 10. Gaining Success, Stability, And Happiness In Our Worldly Life For example, Bawa teaches us, in the book, "The Pearl of Wisdom", on page 141, in the "Conclusion" to that book, that we must assimilate each sweet work in this book, "Guru Mani", we must absorb each word individually, we must enshrine it in our mind and savor it, and if we do, we will gain success, stability, and happiness in our worldly life, but will also enjoy a reciprocative bliss among your fellow people. Bawa tells us that this is certain, this is the truth, and that He says this with determination. So this is what we must do, my dearest loving brother of the One Open Heart of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be please with Him), this is what we must certainly do, to be successful in our life, both here and in the hereafter. May we both, may we all, know this now, and start to act accordingly. May we all do this "Heart's Work", before it is too late. 11. Learning To Become The "Three of Us" Within The "Three of God" Within Us My dearest loving brother Muhammad, we must learning to become the "Three of Us" within the "Three of God" within us, allowing "God, the Shaikh, and the Disciple" within us to become One within us, within the Triple Flame of God within us, allowing the Triple Flame of God within us, allowing Ya Allah, Ya Rasul, Ya Muhaiyaddeen within us, to again become One with God within Us. In this way, moving forward what God has started within us, which is to reveal God to God within us, which is to answer God's question of God in Anathi within us, in the time of darkness or lack of understanding within us, which is our current state within us, to answer the question God asked of God within us, the question, "Who am I?", for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within us, which is the earth world or dunya within us, and for the benefit of all of the Creation of True Man within us, which is the hereafter or akhirah within us. 12. To Order To Truly Help Bawa, We Must Learn To Truly Help His Children Finally, we must begin to realize, that in order to truly help Bawa within us, we must learn to truly help his children both within us and "outside" of us. This is how Bawa has taught us to help Him, to treat His Children in the same way that Bawa treated them, as our own life, as the wealth of our life, as our eyes in awwal, the dunya, and akhirah, as the 1000 generosities of God within us, that make up our inner body, the 1000 generosities of God that can bring the 4 elements, the 4 religions within us to completion. In this way, liberating us, before our death, from the things most people will have to experience after their death, when they can do nothing about it, which includes the suffering of the grave, Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment), and an eternal life of "separation from" God, instead allowing us to come to completion before our death, finding completion within God's grace, finding wisdom within God's completion, finding truth within God's wisdom, and finding God, as the "Oneness of God and True Man", within God's truth. Amen. 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